we should absolutely get rid of any expression whatsoever of religion, if we believe, if we believe that true meaning of separation of church and state means that god stays within the walls of a church. and that's what these activists are doing. we should also take the mention of god out of our constitution, in god we trust, really? >> well, this guy is not going to be happy, the president is going to double down, he's going to have two bibles, one from abraham lincoln and martin luther king. >> well done, but as i said in god we trust, one nation under god out of our constitution, and get rid of it altogether and if you believe what these activists believe, that is that this is bad for our country. but you know, with the president doing the two bibles, mike, i think it's a wonderful thing he's doing it, but if you take the bibles and rip the pages out of them and that's what we're doing in our culture, we still believe in the bible, but nothing that's said within it. it's like a tabernacle with no eucharist, like a church without pews. worship without any liturgy whatsoever and that's w